Podcast
Two Chairs,
One World.
A leadership podcast from Coaching Centred Leadership, hosted by Martin Bull - exploring what it really takes to lead people, across every world.

About the Show
Two people. Two chairs. One world of leadership.
Welcome to Two Chairs, One World - the new leadership podcast from Coaching Centred Leadership. Hosted by Martin Bull, each episode brings together two people from very different worlds: Academia, the Military, and the Corporate world.
You might think these worlds couldn’t be more different. But when it comes to leading people - building trust, delegating, making decisions under pressure, being agile, influencing, gaining commitment, and creating resilient teams that perform at their best - they have far more in common than you might expect.
Together, we explore what leadership really looks like in practice. We share real stories, compare experiences, challenge assumptions, and draw out practical lessons from careers spent leading people in complex environments - discovering where these different worlds of leadership overlap, and where they differ.
Across this first season, we tackle eight key leadership topics, with each episode offering an open, honest conversation. Our aim is simple: to share the ideas, experiences, and insights of our guests.
The Conversation
Three worlds, one conversation.
Every episode pairs guests from different backgrounds to uncover the shared principles - and the telling differences - in how great leaders operate.
The Military
Leading under pressure, making decisions with conviction, and building disciplined, resilient teams.
The Corporate World
Influencing, delegating, and driving aligned performance at pace in complex organisations.
Academia
Curiosity, evidence, and developing people with the confidence to think for themselves.
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